Nick said:
I'm starting to realize not everything is given to us in order to complete the challenge 
Anyways... here is my multimedia page. BTW i've only been making sure my ass. work with chrome so far
Outlining the basic elements of HTML web pages.
This course offers foundational instruction in HTML. Topics include tag structure, file encoding, web browsers, DOCTYPEs, common HTML elements, hyperlinks, images, video, tables, forms, and sections. Additionally, we will touch base on CSS in order for students to transition to other Webcraft courses.
Multimedia
Three main types of multimedia exist on the web images, audio, and video. HTML5 has three tags to include, or embed, these elements into a web page:
- <img>
- <audio>
- <video>
Images
The image tag <img> has one required attribute and several optional attributes. The image tag requires an image source attribute to be present. It is also important that images also provide alternate text so that all users can be aware of the image content.
<img src="http://example.com/image.webp" alt="Example image." />
Images can be given additional attributes including width, height, and a couple of attributes relating to image maps (images with specific interactive areas).
Open image formats include PNG, JPEG, and WebP.
The GIMP is a free photo manipulation tool that you can use to create and edit images for your web pages and even create web layouts. Inkscape is a vector graphics (i.e. SVG) illustrator that can be used to create images, web pages, layouts, and other vector based projects.
Audio
The <audio> tag is new in HTML5. It gives designers a standard way to include audio in a page. The <audio> tag has several parameters the most important of which is source:
<audio src="file.ogg">Text for browsers that do not support the audio tag.</audio>
Other attributes for the <audio> tag include autoplay, controls, loop, and preload.
Ogg Vorbis is an open format for web audio and is supported by Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, and Opera.
Several free tools exist with support for Ogg Vorbis audio:
Video
The <video> tag is also new in HTML5. We can now insert video into a web page without the need for third party plugins! The source attribute is key to the video tag:
<video src="video.ogv">Text for browsers without support for the video tag.</video>
Additional attributes for the <video> tag include audio, autoplay, controls, height, loop, poster, preload, and width.
Ogg Theora and WebM are open formats for Internet video both of which work on Mozilla Firefox, Google Chrome, Chromium, Konqueror, and Opera. Several free tools exist to convert new and existing video to Ogg Theora and/or WebM including:
It is possible to offer alternative formats for browsers that do not support Ogg Theora or WebM. To do this, you nest multiple <source> tags within a <video> tag as such:
<video> <source src="file.ogv" type="video/ogg" /> <source src="file.webm" type="video/webm" /> <source src="file.mp4" type="video/mp4" /> Text or markup to display if the video does not play. </video>
There are also several video hosting/streaming communities that support open formats:
Further information:
Task Discussion
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Pau Company said:
El problema que veo en la utilización de la etiqueta video, es que para cada navegador, necesitamos un formato de video diferente, con lo que esto aumenta considerablemente ya no el trabajo de convertir los videos a mp4, ogg o webm, si no que los hosting de nuestros servidores, se van a llenar de el mismo video, pero con extensiones diferentes, con lo cual, el peso de este va a aumentar considerablemente.
<video><source src="demo/videos/tabarca.mp4" type='video/mp4; codecs="avc1,mp4"' /> <!-- Chrome --><source src="demo/videos/Tabarca_xo.ogg" type='video/ogg; codecs="theora,vorbis"' /> <!-- Firefox 5,6,7,8 --><source src="demo/videos/Tabarca.webmvp8.webm" type='video/webm ; codecs="vp8,vorbis"' /><br/> <!-- IE 8, 9 --></video>Os pongo un ejemplo, que he realizado, con un reproductor, personalizado, que soporta pantalla completa. Decir que el codigo JavaScript y el reproductor es de la empresa github.com, lo utilizo ya que es de facil implementación. Utiliza, ajax y jquery, asi como polyfilles en javascript. Darle las gracias a github.com, por liberar el codigo y hacernos la vida mas facil. Aqui va todo el codigo y el link a mi servidor para que veais el resultado
<!DOCTYPE html><html lang="es"><head><meta charset="utf-8"/><link href="player-style/css/player-styles.css" rel="stylesheet" /><!--[if lt IE 9]><script src="http://HTML5shim.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/HTML5.js"></script><![endif]--><script src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.6.4/jquery.js"></script><!-- only slider + dependencies are required --><script src="https://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jqueryui/1.8.16/jquery-ui.min.js"></script><!-- END: slider --><!-- polyfill: only needed if you want to make it cross browser --><script src="http://afarkas.github.com/webshim/demos/js-webshim/minified/extras/modernizr-custom.js"></script><script src="http://afarkas.github.com/webshim/demos/js-webshim/minified/polyfiller.js"></script><!-- END: polyfill --><script src="../src/jme.js"></script><!-- start polyfill (only if webshims is included) --><script>$.webshims.polyfill('mediaelement');</script><title>jme2</title></head><body><div class="mediaplayer" preload="none" data-jme='{"controlbar": true}'><video><!-- aqui donde pone micarpeta/miarchivo.mp4 debereis poner el nombre de la carpeta donde se ubican vuestros videos y en¡l nombre del video en si --><source src="micarpeta/miarchivo.mp4" type='video/mp4; codecs="avc1,mp4"' /> <!-- Chrome --><source src="micarpeta/miarchivo.ogg" type='video/ogg; codecs="theora,vorbis"' /> <!-- Firefox 5,6,7,8 --><source src="micarpeta/miarchivo.webmvp8.webm" type='video/webm ; codecs="vp8,vorbis"' /><br/> <!-- IE 8, 9 --></video></div></body></html>El Link donde podeis visualizar el resultado es:Si necesitais alguna ayuda, podeis contactar conmigo en info@paucompany.es
Y aqui teneis el ejercicio entero acabado
http://paucompany.es/ejercicioshtml5/html5ejrecicio3.html
Espero comentarios.
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Mr. Plow said:
This was a fun one to complete!
I present Seeds and Pops and Spins.
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Devinciweb said:
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Devinciweb said:
For me in this code here the text shows even with the video playing
<!-- <video> <source src="file.ogv" type="video/ogg" /> <source src="file.webm" type="video/webm" /> <source src="file.mp4" type="video/mp4" /> Text or markup to display if the video does not play. </video> -->
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Moraino said:
That was a little bit tough, but here it is:
José González said:
Hi to all. I did the same test over my first page.http://htmlpad.org/kikofreakkBut I can't run the audio or video tags in Explorer versions under 9.x (P.E. Internet Explorer 8). Do you know any way to run in all of the browsers (at least in the generalists).Greetings, FreaKK
Vita said:
Hello José,
the problem with your could be the single type of audio and video. There are two different types of audio files that you can add in your HTML code ( .ogg / .mp3 ) I suggest you to put both of them because IE doesn't support .ogg files, but it supports .mp3 files, so that means you need to add both of them. Ogg is for the webkit browsers and mp3 for IE. You can do it like this:
<audio controls="controls">
<source src="file/example.ogg" type="audio/ogg">
<source src="file/example.mp3" type="audio/mpeg">
TU NAVEGADOR NO SOPORTA HTML5 - Estarías escuchando La Marcha Granadera, el actual Himno de España</audio>
So that means that you need to have both types of files and if you put them both in your code the browser will be able to recognise the file it supports.
The same thing is with video, only difference is that you have to put three types of files ( .ogv / mp4 / .webm):
<video controls="controls">
<source src="file/example.ogv" type="video/ogg">
<source src="file/example.mp4" type="video/mp4">
<source src="file/example.webm" type="video/webm">
TU NAVEGADOR NO SOPORTA VIDEO OGG - Estarías viendo como se unen 2 cables con una fuente de calor
</video>
Try it, I hope it will help...
Vita
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Vita said:
Ok, finaly did it... <video> and <audio> tags always seem so simple... but then when u get to work.... well... let's just say - takes more time than expected...
Anyway, here's what I did :
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/18761433/HTML5Course/multimedia.html
Devinciweb said:
I love the way you set up your exercises all on one dropbox page.
Nice and inspiring!
Vita said:
Thank you!
It's always nice to see that your work is appreciated...
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joe palmer said:
I think it is your doctype, change it to the HTML5 doctype-
<!DOCTYPE html>
also see what Alcinoe did holding cntrl than hit u key...
In class all day, wish I could help more, anyone else?
demian said:
I changed the doctype to fit html5 and cleaned up meta section. I was watching one of Stanford Uni's videos, and in it the speaker said all the junk I had in <!DOCTYPE html> was now outdated. I also copied Alcinoe's code for audio, but all to no avail. I don't understand the ' holding cntrl than hit u key' bit. U as in letter u?
joe palmer said:
Yes on the u, I should have probably said go to view source but the new Firefox does not have that in the toolbar anymore and that is how you view source now in Firefox, hold cntrl hit u and the view source window pops out. Inbetween classes, sorry can't do more, was curious to this also, I bet if you view source on some of these others you will see what needs a tweek, but you must have or you would not have seen Alcinoes. Oh, what browser do you use? Try another, than you may have to find what they put in to support the browser that you do use, IE is famous for having to add extra things into the code to get what Chrome or Firefox do on thier own.
I put your view source next to one that works and can't figure it yet, but your tag for charset = "utf-8" should not have a / end hash in it, it is always soemthing real little thing that throws things off...recheck your audio source?
Anybody????
demian said:
I ran my file through the online markup validation service. It didn't complain about the / after utf-8 or any part of the audio coding. It doesn't like the comment before <!DOCTYPE>. The only complaint it had was about the stray end tag for </embed>, which doesn't make any sense to me.
I use FireFox. I've looked at the source code of all posters a few days ago. Some of them have the same problem as I. I'll look at each one more carefully.
joe palmer said:
Your audio works for me now, it sounds Yiddish or something, a man not speaking in English. What version FF do you have? Lets just say it has to be at least version 3.5, but they are all the way up to versoin 8 now, so maybe you should go to the Firefox website and download the latest version, your bookmarks and all will remain. I bet that is what it is, let me know.
demian said:
I upgraded FF to 8, but the problem hasn't gone away. I looked at my page in IE on my friend's laptop. Image and YouTube video work. The console bar for the first audio is in the middle of the audio window, but it works. For the second audio bit, there is no gray box or console. It displays the message "Your browser is not supported," or something similar.
joe palmer said:
http://www.devx.com/projectcool/Article/20131/0/page/3
Thats good, it is late here but the other question, those are special charaters that need to be wrote differantly,
Sleep time here, have fun. Remeber Google is your friend.
alcinoe said:
I think that you need to look at the audio files themselves. They must be named jer1.ogg and jer1.mp3. in order for them to work. Also, if your original file was mp3, you need to use a converter to make it into a ogg file (and vice versa).I think that your ogg file is named jer1.ogg.ogv. That would actually make it look like a video file, and because it is not named properly, it can't be found. I think that this is why it is not playing in Firefox. It is fine in Chrome because Chrome looks for and finds the correctly named mp3 file. Firefox does not support mp3 so it looks for and can't find the ogg file.
demian said:
Thank you for the link. Today I don't have much computer time until the evening, but I'll definitly look at the link you gave me.
Yes, Google has been my best friend. I'm still learning to be a good google-searcher.
demian said:
I did convert my mp3 to ogg, and it has the extension .ogg, not .ogg.ogv as far as I can see... Ah, I didn't know that Firefox does not support playback of mp3 files in
<audio>elements, Thanks for the info. FF supports ogg, so it should play jer1.ogg, shouldn't it?
joe palmer said:
I think Alcinoe figured out the problem. Here is another site to see stuff, and I Google tags themselves with HTML5 on them (embed tag HTML5), I might catch bad for this but I do steer clear of W3C school, they have nothing to do with the real W3C. You'll know good sources when you see them, the trick for me is balancing learning with doing, what good is the reading if I'm not making something. There are good ideas in here too fish out and see, tons...
This is a great resource, but there are more like boiler plate too...
http://www.webmonkey.com/2010/02/building_web_pages_with_html_5/
This is the real W3C,I go look up a tag there sometimes but it can get heady, not the best place for a novice, but serious students should know it is there.
Have fun!
alcinoe said:
Ok, I think that i got it now. Your ogg file uses the flac codex and it is not supported by firefox. It must use either the Vorbis or Theora Codex.
alcinoe said:
I put both your original file, and a file with the changed codex at the bottom of this page:
http://www.alcinoe.us/HTML5/Multimedia.html
The one that I changed works in firefox, and the other one does not.
If you want to save the file, right click and hit "save audio as" It iwill add an ogv to the end of the file - this needs to be removed. I also renamed it to jer2.ogg so you either have to change the file name or change it in your code.
demian said:
I saved jer2.ogg as you said, ie., right click and hit 'save sudio as,' but it doesn't have .ogg.ogv extension. I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly...
demian said:
Oh Thanks! I just saw this message from you.
demian said:
Thanks much! That was the problem. When I converted mp3 to ogg, I used an online converter. It didn't show any details (as far as I could see) about the codex. I just installed mp32ogg-vorbis converter and converted my mp3. My page works now. Thanks again.
demian said:
Sure she did! Thank you though for your trying to help me and for the useful links.
joe palmer said:
The best part is I learned new stuff too
!
demian said:
Thank you for the link to David Colhoun's page. I think his homepage is very clean and simple. I like it a lot
alcinoe said:
The original file, when I downloaded it from firefox, renamed itself with an ogg.ogv (crazy) extension - that's why I thought that it wasn't named properly at first. Now it is downloading properly as .ogg.
demian said:
I wanted to ask you how you thought it was the codex, but you answered my question before I got to ask. Thank you for sharing your thought process.
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demian said:
RE: THE <audio> TAG - controls="controls"
The audio console appears just for a second and it disappears, and I'm left with a grey box with 'X' in it. Could someone tell me what may be the problem and how to fix it? Thanks.
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demian said:
For audio, do I need to convert mp3 to ogg in order for the audio tag to work? That seems like a bad thing to do, because converting from one lossy format (mp3) to another (ogg) will degrade the sound quality. Are there any other ways to add mp3 to my web?
demian said:
This doesn't look pretty but works (at least on my browser - firefox).
<embed src="jer1.mp3" autostart="false" volume="100">
</embed>
alcinoe said:
You should include both mp3 and ogg so that it works in as many browsers as possible.
demian said:
I did.
Using the <audio> tag, I can't get the console. It appears for about one second and then disappears. Do you know how to fix it?
joe palmer said:
Paste your dropbox link on or something so people can see what you have :)
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Claudio Pinho said:
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Mike said:
Finally got back to a task, here's my latest build: http://michaelmcneive.com/html5/#three
Few notes:
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Used the Image 2 ways, one as a
IMG element and the other as a CSSbackground image.
- Found an online converter to convert my mp4 video to OGG. Super helpful, otherwise you have to use something like terminal command line to convert it. Not much fun, really. http://www.online-convert.com/
- Finally added the audio mp3 src as well as a fallback.
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Used the Image 2 ways, one as a
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Stavros said:
I have done some work with the diferent types of audio and video files. Unfortunately ie9 failed to play any. On the other hand, google chrome played every possible variation. Safari only supported mp4 (video) and mp3 (audio) and firefox played ogv and webm (video) and ogg (audio).
I also used table to put a header (th tag), change border (border attribute), alignment (align attribute), merge cells in the same row or on the same column (rowspan colspan) and changed color of text (style attribute)
I wish had more time to try other browsers too. (I also own an Android mobile phone and an iphone 3g I could test).
Here are the results to this link:
joe palmer said:
Ha ha, like that link!
It is bewildering what all one learns to get good at this stuff, yet the user agents do what they want with the standards, accepting or ignoring. Competiton, matter of time before they change. Old saying, grow or die. Nice work Stavro.
Stavros said:
Thanx alot Joe. On this kind of learning method a little encourangement is all you need.
alcinoe said:
That is strange, ie9 is supposed to support mp3 audio:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/ie/hh410106#_HTML5_video_audio
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Logan said:
If I were to use an .ogg or .ogv file in an audio or video tag, would Internet Explorer users not be able to view that file?
Brylie Oxley said:
Good question Logan
I added an example to the task above showing how to provide multiple video formats for broader compatibility.
Thanks!
Mike said:
You should do the same for Audio (Add MP3 Fallback). It's important for those learning mark-up for the first time to realize that sometimes you need to use a fallback, whether it's additional src elements or Javascript to make modern elements work correct in IE and older browsers.
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Dar said:
http://etherpad.mozilla.org:9000/basicmarkup
I figured I'd just work on the same pad since I just made it. Good to look at the same markup over and over, noo?
I am slightly confused over ogg files - can I just convert files to ogg?
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skullkandy09 said:
Here is my HTML with audio and a picture - I couldn't find a video. I also wanted to know is there is a way to access the local files of a computer to embed in the html. Also how do you cite copyright etc. in HTML? Is there a special tag?
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